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« on: September 13, 2009, 10:26:59 AM »

salamalaikum,
sometimes after a womens period she has brown discharge, should she count that as part of her period?
and what if she did ghusl, took the niyyah for fasting and then she got brown discharge , what should she do ?
i would really appreciate it if some one provides me with clear and sahih evidence , jazakallahkhair
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« Reply #1 on: September 14, 2009, 01:25:50 AM »

wa `alaykum as-salam wa ra7mat ALLAH wa barakatuh

Bismillahir-Ra7manir-Ra7eem


sister, a similar question like yours was asked on islam-qa but as well there are 2 matters here:


1. Question
: If after six days of menstruation a woman notices some light brown discharge of some sort, is that regarded as menstruation or not?

Answer

Praise be to Allaah. 


If this brownish discharge that the woman sees comes before she sees that she is pure (i.e., seeing a white discharge which indicates that the period is over), then it is part of the period. If it comes after she sees that she is pure, then it is not part of the period and does not affect her praying and fasting.
   Note from another fatwa: The end of the period (tuhr) may be known from one of two signs: emission of the white discharge, which is known to women, or complete dryness, such that if one places a piece of cotton and the like on the site, it comes away clean with no trace of blood or yellow on it.

Shaykh Ibn ‘Uthaymeen (may Allaah have mercy on him) says in his essay al-Dima’ al-Tabee’iyyah li’l-Nisa’ (p. 19) concerning discharges that may interrupt the period:

The third kind is yellowish or brownish discharge, where a woman sees yellowish blood like blood from a wound, or brownish, somewhere between yellow and black. If this happens during the period or following on from it, before the woman becomes pure, then it is part of the period and comes under the rulings on menstruation. If it comes after she becomes pure, then it is not menstruation, because Umm ‘Atiyyah (may Allaah be pleased with her) said: “We used not to regard the brownish or yellowish discharge that comes after a woman becomes pure as being anything that mattered.” Narrated by Abu Dawood with a saheeh isnaad.

He also said in Fataawa Arkaan al-Islam (p. 258):

The basic principle is that if a woman becomes pure and her period is over for certain – which means that she sees the white discharge that is known to women – then any brownish or yellowish discharge or spotting or wetness that comes after she has become pure is not menstruation, so it does not prevent her from praying or fasting, and it does not prevent a man from having intercourse with his wife, because it is not menstruation.

But she should not rush until she has seen that she is pure, because some women, when the bleeding lessens, rush and do ghusl before seeing that the period is over (the white discharge mentioned above). Hence the women of the Sahaabah used to send the cotton with yellowish discharge to the mother of the Believers ‘Aa’ishah (may Allaah be pleased with her), and she would tell them: “Do not hasten until you see the white discharge.”.


2. Question:

My period had ended completely and I did ghusl at night, and intended to fast from the night before, but when I got up to pray Fajr and I was completely pure, suddenly I discharged a white thread and some light brown discharge that could hardly be noticed except from close up, but this did not come whilst I was doing ghusl.
Is this prayer valid or do I have to repeat it? Is my fast of that day valid? Please note that I did not do ghusl after this discharge.

Answer:

Praise be to ALLAH.  

This brownish discharge that came after doing ghusl does not matter and is not regarded as menstruation, so your fast is still valid and you do not have to do ghusl after it came out, because Umm ‘Atiyyah said: “We did not regard brownish or yellowish discharge after the period ended as being anything that mattered.” Narrated by Abu Dawood, 307; classed as saheeh by al-Albaani in Saheeh Abi Dawood. Also narrated by al-Bukhaari with the words: “We did not regard brownish and yellowish discharge as anything that mattered.”

But this brownish discharge does invalidate wudoo’, so if you did wudoo’ for Fajr prayer after this came out, then your prayer is valid and you do not have to do anything. If it came out after you did wudoo’ and you did not repeat wudoo’, then you have to repeat that prayer because you prayed without wudoo’.

Shaykh Ibn Baaz was asked in Majmoo’ al-Fataawa (10/214):

I noticed that when doing ghusl following my monthly period, which usually lasts for five days, sometimes a very small amount comes out of me, immediately after doing ghusl, then after that nothing comes out. I do not know whether I should assume that my regular period is five days and whatever comes after that does not count, and I should fast and pray and I don’t have to do anything else because of that, or I should regard that day as part of my period and not pray and fast then? Please note that this does not always happen, rather it is approximately every two or three cycles.

He replied:

If what comes out of you after you have purified yourself is yellowish or brownish, then it should not be regarded as anything that matters, rather it comes under the same ruling as urine. But if it is obviously blood, then it should be regarded as part of the period, so you have to repeat your ghusl, because of the report from Umm ‘Atiyyah (may Allaah be pleased with her), who was one of the companions of the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him). She said: “We used not to regard yellowish or brownish discharge after purification as being anything that mattered.”

Shaykh Ibn ‘Uthaymeen (may Allaah have mercy on him) was asked in Fataawa al-Siyaam (p. 105): A woman says that her period came, then the bleeding stopped on the sixth day from Maghrib until twelve midnight, so she did ghusl on that day and fasted the following day. Then some brownish discharge came but she fasted that day. Is that to be regarded as part of her period even though her usual period is seven days?

He replied:

This brownish discharge is not part of the period. The brownish discharge that women get after the end of the period is not anything that matters. Umm ‘Atiyaah (may Allaah be pleased with her) said: “We used not to regard yellowish or brownish discharge after purification as being anything that mattered.” According to another report: “We used not to regard it as anything that mattered” – and she did not say after purification. Menstruation is blood, not brownish or yellowish discharge. Based on this, then this woman’s fast was valid, whether that was on the day when she did not see any brownish discharge or on the day when she did see some brownish discharge, because this brownish discharge is not menstruation.

The Standing Committee (10/158) was asked about a woman who became pure (i.e., he period ended) in Ramadaan before dawn came, so she fasted that day, then she went to pray at Zuhr and saw some yellowish discharge. Is her fast valid?

They replied:

If she had become pure before dawn then fasted, her fast is valid and the yellowish discharge she noticed after becoming pure does not affect it, because Umm ‘Atiyyah said: “We used not to regard yellowish or brownish discharge after purification as being anything that mattered.”.

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ref.: http://islamqa.com/en/ref/50430/brown%20discharge
ref. : http://islamqa.com/en/ref/50059/brown%20discharge
also pls refer to: http://islamqa.com/en/ref/93772/brown%20discharge
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« Reply #2 on: September 14, 2009, 10:17:16 AM »

salam alaikum wr ,
jazakallah khair sis
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« Reply #3 on: September 15, 2009, 04:30:02 AM »

wa `alaykum as-salam wa ra7mat ALLAH wa barakatuh

wa iyyaki sis
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