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Title: Love of Learning
Post by: Yan on March 15, 2011, 08:57:57 PM
Hello everyone.  I'm interested in learning about Islam, the Quran and Arabic.  I know very little about these things, as I am an American and live in a place where there is little diversity.  I have spent many years studying religions and philosophies, and am very familiar with Christianity and the Bible - however, I don't feel that those two things go together very well.  I like the Bible very much, but my understanding of it leads me to feel certain that evangelical Christianity is an idolatrous religion and has nothing to do with the spiritual/God/Allah.  This is one reason I have been led here, because one thing I know is that Islam has Allah without associate. 

I use and am interested in the subject of health and healing through the spiritual and alternative methods, because here in the USA we are not entitled to health care.  I use food as medicine, as well as certain supplements, but not too many because they can be as harmful as pharmaceuticals when used excessively.

I look forward to exploring this forum and getting to know people, as well as learning about Islam.  I was doing research about changing one's name when converting, and noticed that a person is supposed to use their father's last name.  And that it is very important to do so.  This bothered me, because I don't know my father's name.  My mother and her family would not tell me, and put a false name for a father on my birth certificate.  I changed my name in court some years ago, because I didn't want to carry my mother's made-up name and wanted my own last name.  She was never married, but made up a name to pretend that she was.



Title: Re: Love of Learning
Post by: mabdullah on March 17, 2011, 01:21:39 PM
Dear Yan welcome to forum.


On entering Islam one does not have to change their name, rather what is required is that he should not have a name that is ugly or carries a meaning that goes against Islam.

You can read more about this on the following link;
 
http://www.dailyhadith.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=519.0


Please feel free to ask any information about Isalm.
May God (Allah) benefit you and everyone on the forum with your presence.  Ameen

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Title: Re: Love of Learning
Post by: Yan on March 17, 2011, 07:44:04 PM
Thank you very much for the answer and reference, mabdullah.


Title: Re: Love of Learning
Post by: Yan on March 26, 2011, 01:47:41 PM
In beginning my study of Islam and the Qur'an, I went to Send a Quran/Book of Signs Foundation, which offered a free Qur'an translation.  The one offered is translated by Professor (Dr.) Syed Vickar Ahamed, and is only in English, but it is the one I have begun reading because the text is large enough to be comfortable reading.  I knew that I wanted a translation by Abdullah Yusuf Ali, so I ordered that as well, and also from eBay an Arabic-only authentic Qur'an.  Of course, I cannot read that one, but I hope to be able to some day!

I am disappointed in the one by Professor Ahamed, because just having started reading it, I found misspellings of simple words such as deity; however, I will continue to read this one first unless I encounter problems I can't tolerate - because of the easy-to-read text.

I have a question about the beautiful translation by Abdullah Yusuf Ali.  It has English and Arabic, and wonderful binding that makes it comfortable and a joy to hold.  The text is very small, though.  I can and will read it as long as my vision allows me to.  My question is regarding what it says on the back of the book.  It says, "Not for Sale - For Free Distribution A Gift From Albirr Foundation UK"  However, I was charged by the Book of Signs Foundation.  I wrote to them about that, including the e-mail receipt, but have not gotten an answer.  Is it okay to sell books that are intended to be provided at no charge?

Another thing I have thought of is that Muslims refer to "People of the Book".  It makes sense to me that Jewish people would fit that category, but many Christians have no understanding of the Bible and it appears to me, no sense at all of Allah - because they have their idol Jesus instead.  And it is an unrealistic version of Jesus, one that they have created in their heads or been sold by others.  That idolatry is prohibited by the Bible.  I hear from those types of people that Muhammad is some kind of god also, because they have it in their heads that God must be a man.  Another thing that is directly rebuked in the Bible.  My question here is, who are "People of the Book" besides Jewish people?  How can these others I've described even fit that category?


Title: Re: Love of Learning
Post by: mabdullah on March 26, 2011, 03:52:17 PM
In beginning my study of Islam and the Qur'an, I went to Send a Quran/Book of Signs Foundation, which offered a free Qur'an translation.  The one offered is translated by Professor (Dr.) Syed Vickar Ahamed, and is only in English, but it is the one I have begun reading because the text is large enough to be comfortable reading.  I knew that I wanted a translation by Abdullah Yusuf Ali, so I ordered that as well, and also from eBay an Arabic-only authentic Qur'an.  Of course, I cannot read that one, but I hope to be able to some day!

Translation by Abdullah Yusuf Ali is  against teaching of Islam, please see the post reply number 14.  (previous message has been edited due to information I did not know before).

Link.         http://www.dailyhadith.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=695.msg2149#new

Very pleased to know that reading Quran in Arabic is your desire because then you can actually feel direct effect of God's words. God helps those who struggle in his path and makes it easy for them so I am sure that God will make it easy for you and hope that one day you will be reading Quran in Arabic (with will of God)

If you have any difficulty or questions please do not hesitate to ask.



My question is regarding what it says on the back of the book.  It says, "Not for Sale - For Free Distribution A Gift From Albirr Foundation UK"  However, I was charged by the Book of Signs Foundation.  I wrote to them about that, including the e-mail receipt, but have not gotten an answer.  Is it okay to sell books that are intended to be provided at no charge?


It is not appropriate for them to charge for Quran which is for free distribution especially if they charged for other than shipment charges.  Must write them and ask the reason. I have searched google and found email address of Albirr Foundation, please do write to them as well.

Adress is

Email: info@albirr.com

Postal:Albirr Foundation UK,
106 Church Road,
Leyton,
London,
E10 5HG.

Tel: 020 8558 1328,
Fax: 020 8556 3355




Another thing I have thought of is that Muslims refer to "People of the Book".  It makes sense to me that Jewish people would fit that category, but many Christians have no understanding of the Bible and it appears to me, no sense at all of Allah - because they have their idol Jesus instead.  And it is an unrealistic version of Jesus, one that they have created in their heads or been sold by others.  That idolatry is prohibited by the Bible.  I hear from those types of people that Muhammad is some kind of god also, because they have it in their heads that God must be a man.  Another thing that is directly rebuked in the Bible.  My question here is, who are "People of the Book" besides Jewish people?  How can these others I've described even fit that category?

Some information about this issue is as below;

"People of the Book consist of both believers and disbelievers, as indicated in the Qur'aan, where Allaah (exalted is He) mentions the disbelievers among them (interpretation of the meaning):

"O people of the Scripture!: Why do you disbelieve in the verses [about Prophet Mohammad (peace be upon him)] of Allaah, while you (yourselves) bear witness (to their truth)". (Aala Imraan, 3:70)

And:

"Say: O people of the Scripture! Why do you stop those who believe from the path of Allah, seeking to make it crooked, while you (yourselves) are witnesses? And Allaah is not unaware of what you do". (Aala Imran, 3:99)

And Allah (exalted is He) said about the believers among them, making clear the difference between them and the aforementioned (interpretation of the meaning):

"Not all of them are alike; a party of the people of the Scripture stand for the right, they recite the Verses of Allaah during the hours of the night, prostrating themselves in prayer. They believe in Allaah and the Last Day; they enjoin what is right and forbid evil and they hasten in good works; and they are among the righteous. And whatever good they do, nothing will be rejected of them; for Allaah knows well those who are the pious". (Aala Imran, 3:113-115)

These people also believe in our Prophet (S) and the Quran which was revealed to him as mentioned (approximate translation of meanings is):

"And there are, certainly, among the people of the Scripture, those who believe in Allah and in that which has been revealed to you, and in that which has been revealed to them, humbling themselves before Allah. They do not sell the Verses of Allah for a little price, for then is a reward their Lord. Surely, Allah is Swift in account". (Aal Imran, 3:199)

The disbelief of the disbelieving People of the Scripture, that include Jews and Christians, in our times does not expel them from being People of the Scripture. "

(taken from Islam Qand A)


Best regards.


Title: Re: Love of Learning
Post by: Yan on March 26, 2011, 04:06:53 PM
I appreciate the encouragement on learning Arabic.  I fully believe it is better to read the Qur'an in Arabic, for the reason you mention of spiritual power.  Thank you also for the explanation of People of the Book, and I will contact the Albirr Foundation as well, since the other website hasn't answered my question.


Title: Re: Love of Learning
Post by: mabdullah on March 30, 2011, 04:29:27 AM

I will contact the Albirr Foundation as well, since the other website hasn't answered my question.

I also wrote an email to Albirr foundation and they replied as below;

"Assalamualaikum
 
Our books are distributed for free and are not meant to be sold. You can obtain a free copy of the Quran by sending a self-addressed envelope to us, please see our website for postage costs, (Albirr foundation's web address is in your PM, as they have requested not to publish their address."
I hope this will be helpful.
 


Title: Re: Love of Learning
Post by: UmmOmar on March 30, 2011, 08:32:17 AM
Bismillahir-Ra7manir-Ra7eem

I'd also suggest you read the translation of Qur'an by  Dr. Muhammad Taqi-ud-Din Al-Hilali, Ph.D. and Dr. Muhammad Muhsin Khan. I personally prefer their translation to any other. I could provide yu with a link to a software which includes arabic text of Qur'an the transliteration and the translation in english which you can find in sha' ALLAH here:

http://imaanstar.com/quran.php

And there are some misprints but that's the software i guess, and still it's one of the best i think may ALLAH reward with all the best for their efforts.

You should try i think


Title: Re: Love of Learning
Post by: Yan on March 30, 2011, 09:36:31 AM
Thank you mabdullah and tasneem.  That imaanstar website looks very useful.  What is the difference between The Noble Quran and The Quran?  Is The Noble Quran more complete?  I see they are the same file size.  Maybe the second one is only English?


Title: Re: Love of Learning
Post by: Yan on March 30, 2011, 11:08:06 AM
I haven't downloaded either one yet.  I noticed that it is a .exe file, which makes me curious.  I was hoping it was a .pdf file that I can put on my Kindle.


Title: Re: Love of Learning
Post by: mabdullah on March 30, 2011, 02:38:58 PM
What is the difference between The Noble Quran and The Quran?  Is The Noble Quran more complete?  I see they are the same file size.  Maybe the second one is only English?

Quran is only one and exactly same as it was revealed.God has given various names to Quran in Quran itself. Noble (in Arabic Kareem) is one of the many descriptions of Quran.


Below are some of the Names and Characteristics of the Qur'an

Allah the Exalted said, in describing His Book:

Allah has sent down the most beautiful of speech, a Book, (parts of it) resembling (others) oft-repeated. The skins of those who fear their Lord shiver from it. Then their skins and their hearts soften to the remembrance of Allah (Zumar 39:23)


Allah has named the Qur’an with many names and amongst them are:

Al-Qur’an (theRecital),  
Al-Furqaan (the Criterion between Truth and falsehood),
at-Tanzeel (the Revelation),
Al-Kitaab (the Book).

Allah has also given the Qur’an many descriptions in His verses of Quran and amongst them are:

Noor (Light),
Huda (Guidance),
Mau’idhah (Admonition),
Shifaa’ (Healing),
Rahmah (Mercy),
Mubaarak (Blessing),
Mubeen (Clear, Manifest),
Bushraa (Good Tidings),
Azeez (Mighty),
Majeed (Glorious),
Basheer (Bringer of Glad Tidings),
Nadheer (Warner),
Kareem (Noble),
Ahsanul-Hadith (the Best of Speech)

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Title: Re: Love of Learning
Post by: UmmOmar on March 31, 2011, 01:07:04 AM
Quote
What is the difference between The Noble Quran and The Quran?  Is The Noble Quran more complete?

If i'm not mistaken The Noble Qur'an exe includes the transliteration in case you can't read arabic that would be of help to see how the words are pronounced. Go for the Noble Qur'an in sha' ALLAH.

As for exe. file don't worry there r no viruses there in sha' ALLAH and it never created problems for me till now al7amdulillah i've been using it for around 4 years now from different OS. And software makes it easier for you to search, i.e. you're curious to find where the word WORSHIP is mentioned throughout the Qur'an so you simply type worship in the search box and it will give you the list of verses (ayahs) where the word is mentioned etc, you also have the option to add a verse or several verses in Favourites in order to review them later etc.


Title: Re: Love of Learning
Post by: Yan on March 31, 2011, 09:46:48 AM
Thanks again for the explanation, mabdullah.

tasneem, so those are actually computer programs and not simply e-books.  Good to know.

I've picked out the books I think will be most useful to learn Arabic, and they aren't very expensive - I just have to wait until some money comes in to order them.  These are the ones, if anyone else is interested -

Easy Arabic Script by Mahmoud Gaafar $9.04
Read and Speak Arabic for Beginners with Audio CD by Jane Wightwick $12.89
The Arabic Alphabet:  How to Read & Write It by Nicholas Awde $5.49


Title: Re: Love of Learning
Post by: fahima on April 01, 2011, 10:22:31 AM
ASSALAMU ALAIKUM VA RAH.............
URWA BIN MASOOD (RAL) IS THE ONLY COPANION OF PROPHET MUHAMMAD (SAL) WHO WAS VERY SIMILAR TO PROPHET ISA(ALAI)


Title: Re: Love of Learning
Post by: mabdullah on May 15, 2011, 11:05:03 AM
 I knew that I wanted a transllation ofAbdullah Yusuf Ali, so I ordered that as well, and also from
Translation by Abdullah Yusuf Ali is recommended by many although I myself find small text size of any book difficult to read.

Unfortunately I did not have full information about Abdullah Yusuf Ali , we must NOT read his translation as he rejects the teaching of Islam, please read more information on the link below,

http://www.dailyhadith.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=695.msg2149#new

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Title: Re: Love of Learning
Post by: Yan on May 15, 2011, 03:33:49 PM
Thanks for the update on Abdullah Yusuf Ali's translations.  That is interesting.  I don't know enough about Islam on most of those issues, but the one about legalizing bank interest deviates from what I feel is right.


Title: Re: Love of Learning
Post by: Yan on May 15, 2011, 03:45:25 PM
I'm sure I'll be giving this a lot of consideration, but now I wonder which is the best translation, and also in regards to burning Abdullah Yusuf Ali's translations - 1)  Usually people who burn holy books do so in defiance and aggression, 2)  If such a translation included the Arabic text, one would be burning the actual and legitimate Qur'an.  We can easily see why translating the Qur'an at all is problematic.


Title: Re: Love of Learning
Post by: UmmOmar on May 16, 2011, 01:02:05 AM

السلام عليكم و رحمة الله
بسم الله الرحمن الرحيم

Jazak ALLAH khaira brother Abdullah for the correction and don't worry many people don't know about it and i myself found out about it recently though i've never used that copy and always use the translation by Drs. Muhsin Khan and Taqi-ud-Deen Al Hilali.

Thanks for the update on Abdullah Yusuf Ali's translations.  That is interesting.  I don't know enough about Islam on most of those issues, but the one about legalizing bank interest deviates from what I feel is right.

Islam doesn't legalize bank interest. There is something called Islamic banking which is a quite complicated topic and many people don't see the difference, though difference is big and it requires a thourough study for one to understand. In sha' ALLAH we'll try to post an appropriate post soon.

I'm sure I'll be giving this a lot of consideration, but now I wonder which is the best translation, and also in regards to burning Abdullah Yusuf Ali's translations - 1)  Usually people who burn holy books do so in defiance and aggression, 2)  If such a translation included the Arabic text, one would be burning the actual and legitimate Qur'an.  We can easily see why translating the Qur'an at all is problematic.

The copies of Qur'anic translation usually don't include the Arabic text, at least i haven't met one, even if there is it is not considered as Al Mus-haf. Anyway, what they meant in the article is that you simply stay away from that copy and that's all, it's up to you i suppose how you do it :) At the end our duty is to warn people bi'ithniLLAH.

And you're right it's not an easy task to translate the Qur'an and that's why the scholars study for years, studying the meanings of this or that word taking into consideration the explanations to Qur'an from various ahadith narrated from Sahabah who initially learnt it from the Prophet Muhammad himself صلى الله عليه و سلم wa ALLAHu a`lam

May ALLAH sub7anahu wa ta`ala forgive our mistakes and guidde us to what's right.


Title: Re: Love of Learning
Post by: Yan on May 16, 2011, 09:23:47 AM
Thank you for mentioning alternate authors/translators, tasneem.  I am wondering how to get and use Arabic fonts for Windows 7.  I found something about this subject online, but the Arabic is in question marks -

"2-The part of the Ayah in which Allah, all praise and glory be to Him, says:

[إِنَّمَا الْمَسِيحُ عِيسَى ابْنُ مَرْيَمَ رَسُولُ اللّهِ وَكَلِمَتُهُ أَلْقَاهَا إِلَى مَرْيَمَ وَرُوحٌ مِّنْهُ]

Which means: “The Messiah ‘Iesa (Jesus), son of Maryam (Mary), was (no more than) a Messenger of Allah and His Word, ("Be!" - and he was) which He bestowed on Maryam (Mary) and a spirit (Rûh) created by Him.” (An-Nisâ’, 4: 171)

Yusuf Ali translates as:

“Christ Jesus the son of Mary was (no more than) a Messenger of Allah, and His Word, which He bestowed on Mary and a Spirit proceeding from Him: so believe in Allah and His Messengers.”

He translates it as: “a Spirit proceeding from Him” makes it mean a spirit emanating from Him [proceed means: issue, emanate, emerge…]. Thus he inserted that polytheistic expression in the text and thus completely distorted its meaning."

Now that I see how that pasted, I guess I fixed it at a Microsoft site!  Anyway, I got that here - http://www.imanway.com/en/showthread.php?t=1801&page=1

What I wonder about this is references to "Christ Jesus" and "Messiah".  Is Jesus considered these things in Islam? 


Title: Re: Love of Learning
Post by: UmmOmar on May 17, 2011, 06:58:28 AM
بسم الله الرحمن الرحيم

I'll post for you tafsir (explanation) by ibn Katheer, which is a well recognized and trusted source for tafsir.
Before starting, i'd like to mention that you'll never see in Qur'an name of `Isa (`alayhi salam) as Jesus Christ, but you will meet `Isa bnu Maryam (`Isa son of Maryam (Mary) ) or  Messiah, son of Maryam (Mary), or both  Messiah 'Iesa (Jesus), the son of Maryam (Mary) etc. but i'm guessing they give Jesus as to make it easier for non-Arab readers to understand whom they are reading about etc.

Now to the explanation of the verse from ibn Katheer there's a long explanation to the first part of the ayah (verse), but i'll post for you the part you've mentioned to make it clear in sha' ALLAH:

(171. O People of the Scripture! Do not exceed the limits in your religion, nor say of Allah except the truth. Al-Masih `Isa, son of Maryam, was (no more than) a Messenger of Allah and His Word, which He bestowed on Maryam and a spirit from [created by] Him; so believe in Allah and His Messengers. Say not: "Three!'' Cease! (it is) better for you. For Allah is (the only) One God, hallowed be He above having a son. To Him belongs all that is in the heavens and all that is in the earth. And Allah is All-Sufficient as a Disposer of affairs.)

(Al-Masih `Isa, son of Maryam, was (no more than) a Messenger of Allah and His Word, which He bestowed on Maryam and a spirit from [created by] Him;) `Isa is only one of Allah's servants and one of His creatures. Allah said to him, `Be', and he was, and He sent him as a Messenger. `Isa was a word from Allah that He bestowed on Maryam, meaning He created him with the word `Be' that He sent with Jibril to Maryam. Jibril blew the life of `Isa into Maryam by Allah's leave, and `Isa came to existence as a result. This incident was in place of the normal conception between man and woman that results in children. This is why `Isa was a word and a Ruh (spirit) created by Allah, as he had no father to conceive him. Rather, he came to existence through the word that Allah uttered, `Be,' and he was, through the life that Allah sent with Jibril. Allah said,

[مَّا الْمَسِيحُ ابْنُ مَرْيَمَ إِلاَّ رَسُولٌ قَدْ خَلَتْ مِن قَبْلِهِ الرُّسُلُ وَأُمُّهُ صِدِّيقَةٌ كَانَا يَأْكُلاَنِ الطَّعَامَ]

(Al-Masih [`Isa], son of Maryam, was no more than a Messenger; many were the Messengers that passed away before him. His mother [Maryam] was a Siddiqah. They both ate food.) And Allah said,

[إِنَّ مَثَلَ عِيسَى عِندَ اللَّهِ كَمَثَلِ ءَادَمَ خَلَقَهُ مِن تُرَابٍ ثُمَّ قَالَ لَهُ كُن فَيَكُونُ ]

(Verily, the likeness of `Isa before Allah is the likeness of Adam. He created him from dust, then (He) said to him: "Be! ـ and he was.)

[وَالَّتِى أَحْصَنَتْ فَرْجَهَا فَنَفَخْنَا فِيهَا مِن رُّوحِنَا وَجَعَلْنَـهَا وَابْنَهَآ ءَايَةً لِّلْعَـلَمِينَ ]

(And she who guarded her chastity, We breathed into her (garment) and We made her and her son [`Isa] a sign for all that exits.) (21:91)

[وَمَرْيَمَ ابْنَةَ عِمْرَانَ الَّتِى أَحْصَنَتْ فَرْجَهَا]

(And Maryam, the daughter of `Imran who guarded her chastity,) and Allah said concerning the Messiah,

[إِنْ هُوَ إِلاَّ عَبْدٌ أَنْعَمْنَا عَلَيْهِ]

(He [`Isa] was not more than a servant. We granted Our favor to him.)


The Meaning of "His Word and a spirit from Him

`Abdur-Razzaq narrated that Ma`mar said that Qatadah said that the Ayah,

[وَكَلِمَتُهُ أَلْقَـهَا إِلَى مَرْيَمَ وَرُوحٌ مِّنْهُ]

(And His Word, which He bestowed on Maryam and a spirit from [created by] Him;) means, He said,

[كُنَّ]

(Be) and he was. Ibn Abi Hatim recorded that Ahmad bin Sinan Al-Wasiti said that he heard Shadh bin Yahya saying about Allah's statement,

[وَكَلِمَتُهُ أَلْقَـهَا إِلَى مَرْيَمَ وَرُوحٌ مِّنْهُ]

(and His Word, which He bestowed on Maryam and a spirit from [created by] Him;) "`Isa was not the word. Rather, `Isa came to existence because of the word.'' Al-Bukhari recorded that `Ubadah bin As-Samit said that the Prophet said,

«مَنْ شَهِدَ أَنْ لَا إِلهَ إِلَّا اللهُ، وَحْدَهُ لَا شَرِيكَ لَهُ، وَأَنَّ مُحَمَّدًا عَبْدُهُ وَرَسُولُهُ، وَأَنَّ عِيسَى عَبْدُاللهِ وَرَسُولُهُ وَكَلِمَتُهُ أَلْقَاهَا إِلى مَرْيَمَ وَرُوحٌ مِنْهُ، وَأَنَّ الْجَنَّةَ حَقٌّ، وَالنَّارَ حَقٌّ، أَدْخَلَهُ اللهُ الْجَنَّةَ عَلَى مَا كَانَ مِنَ الْعَمَل»

(If anyone testifies that none has the right to be worshipped but Allah Alone Who has no partners, and that Muhammad is His servant and Messenger, and that `Isa is Allah's servant and Messenger and His Word which He bestowed on Maryam and a spirit created by Him, and that Paradise is true and Hell is true, then Allah will admit him into Paradise with the deeds which he performed.) In another narration, the Prophet said,

«مِنْ أَبْوَابِ الْجَنَّةِ الثَّمَانِيَّةِ يَدْخُلُ مِنْ أَيِّهَا شَاء»

(...through any of the eight doors of Paradise he wishes.) Muslim also recorded it. Therefore, `Ruh from Allah', in the Ayah and the Hadith is similar to Allah's statement,

[وَسَخَّرَ لَكُمْ مَّا فِى السَّمَـوَتِ وَمَا فِى الاٌّرْضِ جَمِيعاً مِّنْهُ]

(And has subjected to you all that is in the heavens and all that is in the earth; it is all from Him.) meaning, from His creation. `from Him' does not mean that it is a part of Him, as the Christians claim, may Allah's continued curses be upon them. Saying that something is from Allah, such as the spirit of Allah, the she-camel of Allah or the House of Allah, is meant to honor such items. Allah said,

[هَـذِهِ نَاقَةُ اللَّهِ]

(This is the she-camel of Allah...) and,

[وَطَهِّرْ بَيْتِىَ لِلطَّآئِفِينَ]

(and sanctify My House for those who circumambulate it.) An authentic Hadith states,

«فَأَدْخُلُ عَلَى رَبِّي فِي دَارِه»

(I will enter on my Lord in His Home) All these examples are meant to honor such items when they are attributed to Allah in this manner. Allah said,

[فَـَامِنُواْ بِاللَّهِ وَرَسُولِهِ]

(so believe in Allah and His Messengers.) believe that Allah is One and Alone and that He does not have a son or wife. Know and be certain that `Isa is the servant and Messenger of Allah. Allah said after that,

[وَلاَ تَقُولُواْ ثَلَـثَةٌ]

etc.... till the end

I hope this made it clear for you in sha' ALLAH. If you have any other further questions, feel free to ask.

Ma`a salam


Title: Re: Love of Learning
Post by: Yan on May 17, 2011, 07:06:05 PM
Well, it was Yusuf Ali that used the term "Christ Jesus", according to that website.  I'm surprised to see the Messiah reference as well.  It has very Christian associations, more than just an annointed prophet.  The way I've heard "Messiah" used all my life makes Jesus a savior and a god - things that I do not believe.  Who/what is Jibril?

Does anyone here use a good text editor for Arabic?  I was able to paste in Arabic, but when I had it in my text editor, it was question marks.  I'd like an Arabic text editor.


Title: Re: Love of Learning
Post by: UmmOmar on May 18, 2011, 12:34:24 AM
بسم الله الرحمن الرحيم

You should read the information on this link, it's quite big and lengthy but it covers the major points about how the Jews and Christians deviate claiming that God has a son and who Messiah really is:

http://www.islam-qa.com/en/ref/10683/messiah

If there are still some doubts left please let us know to provide you with more info in sha' ALLAH


Title: Re: Love of Learning
Post by: UmmOmar on May 18, 2011, 08:51:32 AM
بسم الله الرحمن الرحيم


Concerning your question about Jibril (Gabriel), he's the greatest of all the angels and he's the Rouh al Qudus (Holy Spirit) referred to in al Qur'an about this very topic please read more here:

http://www.islam-qa.com/en/ref/14403/Gabriel

In short:

The greatest of all the angels is Jibreel (Gabriel), upon whom be peace, who was described in the following report:

"From ‘Abdullaah ibn Mas‘ood, who said: the Messenger of Allah (Peace & Blessings of Allaah be upon Him) saw Jibreel in his true form. He had six hundred wings, each of which covered the horizon. There fell from his wings jewels, pearls and rubies, only Allah knows about them." It was reported by Ahmad in al-Musnad, and Ibn Katheer said in al-Bidaayah 1/47 that its isnaad is jayyid.

The Messenger of Allah (Peace & Blessings of Allaah be upon Him) said, describing Jibreel:

"I saw Jibreel descending from heaven, and his great size filled the space between heaven and earth." (Reported by Muslim, no. 177).



Among the angels is one whose task it was to convey the revelation from Allah to His Messengers; this is al-Rooh al-Ameen, Jibril, upon whom be peace. Allah says:

"Say: whoever is an enemy to Jibreel - for he brings down the (revelation) to your heart by Allah’s will. . . " [al-Baqarah 2:97]

"Which the trustworthy spirit has brought down, Upon your heart, that you may be (one) of the warners." [al-Shu‘araa’ 26:193-194]


and ALLAH Ta`ala knows best